I believe his family provided the photos. I think there would have been evidence--circumstantial or otherwise that might have linked a motive or involvement of some sort and implicated either herself, someone she is associated with or both. Is that normal? Let's look back at some memorable moments and interesting insights from last year. Is it possible the convoluted stories that we all come up with to make the holes fit are just that....a massive stretch on reality where the actual crimes committed were just that, simple--poorly judged, improperly executed and monstrous? by u/EZEStateEZE, "Maybe far fetched, but have we considered it" by u/matkares, "Apartment Search: A nice little bs story?!?" Maybe far fetched, but have we considered it. r/Chriswatts Community to discuss the murders of the Watts family and subsequent arrest of Chris Watts, the father and husband. Chris Watts was in an abusive marriage with Shanann who often humiliated him, claims ‘Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer’ Throughout the film, it is mildly apparent how Chris becomes increasingly uncomfortable and suffocated within his own family of four with a baby boy on the way. I think he was full of rage and was raging the whole way out to the site, hallucinating that the girls were still alive, maybe he also saw SW and she was "belittling" him in his imaginary hallucinations and he realized he couldn't get away from them even in death--he resorted back to auto-pilot still filled with rage knowing he had to bury SW and put the two girls in the tanks...that was the original plan so he stuck to it. On August 15, Watts failed a polygraph test … that he didn't want to pass it up but he knew his time was running out with her so I wonder...I wonder if NK had someone help get rid of CW's family in no uncertain terms-- i.e. I've heard about the freemasonry stuff as well but would think that's hearsay. The Chris Watts murders are horrific. The Colorado father serving multiple life sentences for the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters sent letters from prison to the author of an upcoming book that contain shocking revelations that conflict with claims Chris Watts made to law enforcement officials. It's also obvious the writer did NO investigation into the case. Is it a broad mix of the following--Here is where my two-sides of the fence lie--. Community to discuss the murders of the Watts family and subsequent arrest of Chris Watts, the father and husband. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. Where Chris Watts' Family's Dead Bodies Were Found Chris Watts confessed to killing his pregnant wife and two young daughters in November 2018 in Weld County Colorado , north of Denver. Does anyone else kind of think CW had a "Fractured" moment (--a 2019 movie released on Netflix where a father/husband basically envisions his wife and kids with him, even goes as far as to talk with them in the car, etc., only to realize he had accidentally killed them and hid their bodies at a construction site (NOTE--the obviously crazy twist was is that we see that he had actually basically snapped and went crazy when he realized the full extent and made up a story that his daughter didn't die and he was talking to an hallucinatory vision), Yes you would have to see it, I am sure I just butchered that story-line but it is something I often think about, CW was living two separate lives with two completely different woman. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Chris Watts’ wife and daughters, missing for three days, were found dead last week on property of the Colorado man’s former employer. What if he’s going to give out the name? Community to discuss the murders of the Watts family and subsequent arrest of Chris Watts, the father and husband. Obviously CW is the sole and likely only suspect in regards to the justice system/courts concern but that doesn't stop the idea that someone (or more than one person) was involved-- think about it, say NK is at the house retrieving something, planting evidence or cleaning up--while she was supposed to be at work...either she drove herself or someone else drove her. On the flip side, I often wonder if going with the theory above-- someone else (NK, Jim?, etc...) being involved providing CW with assistance on that night/morning either to his wife and kids or help with the after-math (cleaning, disposing of evidence, creating a distraction, etc.). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://preview.redd.it/jmax4iveuya61.png?width=748&format=png&auto=webp&s=96a4407212f9fb76a6f2babf1c9a0b87cd9d04b4, Deceptive Language & Euphemism by CW and NK. All for love or the idea of a new love? Harrowing details of how Chris Watts's family's decomposing bodies were found have been revealed in new crime scene reports.. Watts's wife Shanann was … He could've been set free with a new life with NK. Accounts must be 3 months old with a minimum of 300 karma to comment and post. Their daughters, 4 yr old Bella, and 3 yr old Celeste, died by asphyxiation due to smothering. but I digress whatever it was or wasn't we will never know. Not scientific!!!" This is not a Shan'ann or Chris Watts groupie hangout. Christopher Watts admitted to killing his pregnant wife Shan'ann Watts by strangulation. "What NK didn’t google..." by u/Starkville, "Deceptive Language & Euphemism by CW and NK" by u/bedhead4465, "Informal NK survey. The Watts family murders occurred on the early morning of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. Husband Chris Watts, then 33, and wife Shan’ann, 34, just found out they were expecting a … The girlfriend of Chris Watts, the Colorado man serving multiple life sentences for murdering his pregnant wife, Shanann, and two daughters, helped police crack the case. List of suspicious coincidences and curious statements. Apartment Search: A nice little bs story? This is for fact and speculation only, no harassment, of the suspect or victims family members or a site for mourning. She was adamant NOT to involve her friend Jim during police interviews (and they didn't) but it is obvious that someone was with NK and CW on their trip, the office was in MAJOR disarray as if it had been ransacked and looked through--I don't think that was staged--I think CW was looking for something specific?? I think all three or at least two of the three could have still been alive in the car-ride but I really don't think they were alive still in any capacity. The summer of 2018 should have been a joyous one for the Watts family. The Watts family murders occurred on the early morning of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. He seemed like someone who compartmentalized a lot of his behavior and movements dependent upon who he was around. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Since, the only genuine emotion that I saw from CW was when he realized that he was going to spend the rest of his life in jail. She for sure might have been pressuring CW to leave SW, she tried to butter up the story to detectives by including the girls in the scenario but that probably isn't how it went IRL, she probably didn't plan on playing step-mom and wanted to have her dalliances with CW to herself. 6.9k This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. 6 : photos of the field of flowers from the job site, basement photos, thermostat photos, their random face-time call that no one can remember, texts, calls, etc., that we now will never be able to prove or verify....might they all be signals? Chris Watts confessed to killing his pregnant spouse and two younger daughters in November 2018 in Weld County Colorado, north of Denver. “Can I talk to my dad or something?” he asked CBI agent Tammy Lee and FBI Special Agent Grahm Coder as he was being interrogated in the time after his family seemingly vanished. On one hand I think NK knew much more about the Watt's lives, marriage and situation well before she got "involved" with CW. The bodies were dumped at a work site belonging to Anadarko Petroleum Corp., for whom Chris Watts worked prior to his arrest, about 60 miles from the family's home. ^Of course, we all know this wasn't anywhere near an accidental death for any of the involved victims of the Watt's case, we know SW didn't kill the girls, etc., so it would appear in order to make something like that fit, that CW would have had to be the one to kill one of the girls in FRONT of SW or it would have had to be an accidental death initially for one of the girls and then the other two killings were after-effects BUT we know that the murders were per-meditated and planned so that most likely didn't happen either. While he initially advised investigators and the media that he didn’t know the place his spouse and daughters had been, ultimately Watts confessed to killing all of them. 34-year-old Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant with a son, was buried in a shallow grave - "nine inches below the surface grade"- and her body … Chris Watts confessed to killing his pregnant wife and two young daughters in November 2018 in Weld County Colorado, north of Denver. Disturbing new details regarding Chris Watts’ murdered family has been revealed. So many words I want to put into action but can't describe it properly...like NK and CW had a spell on each other, I don't think she is as innocent and unaware/uninvolved as she is being portrayed/portrayed herself. Shanann Watts was pronounced dead at 5 am on August 16, Celeste at 3:40 pm, and Bella at 5:50 pm on the same day. I think it is possible she deleted texts, etc. I was watching a YT creator who was talking about CW not implicating anyone else, but that a way to get the plea deal reversed would be to come up with another person involved. Chris Watts told author Cherlyn Cadle he believes he was visited in prison by his dead family member while serving 5 life sentences for murdering them last August in Fredrick, Colorado. Harrowing photos and written report detail the painstaking process of retrieving Chris Watts' two daughters from enormous oil drums three days after their father murdered them and dumped their bodies This could explain why he was still so angry at SW hours after her death. Harrowing autopsy report details as Chris Watts suffocated family before hiding bodies Meanwhile, the CBI and FBI went through Watts’ phone, and found he had been having an affair with a co-worker. By that I mean knowing right from wrong. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Chris Watts has now been formally charged with killing his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, Bella and Celeste. "checks" on the unspoken boxes of what "tasks" he has already completed? I'm only on chapter 7 I find myself getting sick reading her words and what he had to say. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Life insurance? One with whom he thought he was falling in love with and one for whom he had fallen out of love (probably never knew what love was TBH b/c he didn't really know that feeling until he met NK--his words), I feel like CW was experiencing something similar to the mind "break" in the Fracture movie 1) in the car with their bodies and 2) in the house the night of/after the murders (where he had to stay in a hotel shortly afterwards b/c it was "too quiet to stay in the house alone", etc.). At the very least they could be charged with providing substances to intentionally end the life of a fetus. Do you get the impression that something more was going on? In body cam footage shown on HLN’s “Killer Dad: Chris Watts Speaks,” neighbor Nate Trinastich can be seen the day of the disappearance showing police and Chris Watts surveillance footage he captured of Watts loading his truck just after 5 a.m. that morning. Chris Watts is the topic of a brand new Netflix sequence referred to as “American Murder: The Family Next Door.” Watts was convicted of murdering his spouse and daughters, who had been present in oil drums. Where Chris Watts’ Family’s Dead Bodies Were Found. Christopher Watts admitted to killing his pregnant wife Shan'ann Watts by strangulation. IDK, anyone else pinned this down? Why was NK allowed to be in her phone going through it during the interview? American Murder: The Family Next Door explains the very real and heinous familicide committed by Chris Watts in 2018, in which he murdered his … While … Chris Watts killed wife Shanann Watts and daughters Bella and Celeste in Frederick, Colorado. I'm sure this has been plenty discussed before but I'm fairly new here so sorry for repetitions. What is the timeline then for when NK and CW met? Mayhap, his family had good intentions.Alternatively, the photos are a reminder of all of the freedom that lifetime in prison no longer allows. Their bodies were found three days later. She is suspicious AF!!! Police and prosecutors have confirmed many of the details of the case that News outlets have reported over the past week since Shanann and the girls were first reported missing and Watts was formally charged on Monday. Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think both NK+CW got very comfortable with the life they started together while SW and the girls were away and I do think NK gave him pressure, ultimatums and force fed him marriage plans, health goals, car ideas, financial advice, fun trips away, where he was going to live, no-strings-attached sex, etc. Their daughters, 4 yr old Bella, and 3 yr old Celeste, died by asphyxiation due to smothering. The purpose of this sub is to explore facts, evidence, behavior and theories surrounding this case. I am still curious...my feelings are as such: I go back and forth with this, what do you think? While he initially told investigators and the media that he didn't know where his wife and daughters were, eventually Watts confessed to killing all of them. Chris Watts thought he could get away with the annihilation of his family by crafting a story about just one thing. It may be at the Prison's discretion. Do you believe that CW was going to come back and make sure he was not caught by LE by cleaning up his mess at Cervi by causing an explosion? Since everyone knows who wrote it I'm not going to give her attention by saying her name. He was trying to most likely get rid of what he was still seeing AND hearing. I will say this there's a reason CW and the family turned on her. His mind would have HAD to split at some point if it wasn't like that BEFORE the crimes. by u/crickettail, "List of suspicious coincidences and curious statements" by u/bedhead4465, "Latest Rzucek lawyers press conference was really weird." Watts was having an affair with a lady named Nichol Kessinger. by u/bedhead4465, "NK's Unicorn Lucky Charms text" by u/bedhead4465. 2) She said “he had all of you fooled”not all of us fooled... that is a strange way to say something that you wouldn’t have had much knowledge about. Latest Rzucek lawyers press conference was really weird. 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